Join Michigan Open Carry in Lansing for a Picnic

[wardog6t]

Can I bring my A-Team Mini-14?

MOC's board has made it clear that the organization's mission is focussed on the OC of handguns. They also feel the appearance of a long gun at an event distracts the public from that focus. That being said, we cannot control what a free person does in public, we can only control if MOC will continue to associate with them.

Hmmm this raises questions? How can MOC "control" whom they associate with? Especially in a public, picnic style format. Other than filing appropriate court documents. Which also raises the question of, will MOC be filing court documents against any person it deems unworthy to participate in "their' cause... To the point. If an individual wishes to show up at an MOC.Inc Sanctioned? event carrying a firearm, rocket launcher, machine gun, grenade launcher or whatever the case. There is nothing MOC.Inc can do. The media hounds would have to sit back and enjoy there new found media attention. Which also makes me question what type of response the general public would have to open carry and MOC.Inc?

[CV67PAT]

For those unfamiliar with the old TV show, Hannibal's choice of firearm was the Ruger Mini-14 with a folding stock.

Here in Michigan such a weapon is considered a pistol.

When another poser rasised the question of bringing a mini-30, I asked if it was registered. I am not really interested in whether it was or not but rather did so in a round about wat to ascertain if he had a piatol also.

I inquired about bringing my A-Team mini-14 out of a genuine desire to ascertain if it was acceptable. The inquiry was solely for that purpose. Not to engage in the debate of registering firearms for government acountability. Nor to discover what the policy of MOC is. It was a rather straight forward  and simple question...

 "Can I bring my A-Team Mini-14?"

Now if I did have a SAW I just might bring that. But I don't. So that  is a moot, not MUTE, point.

And insofar as whether MOC can restrict anyones participation, the answer is yes. It is a private party and anyone can be asked to leave at anytime, without any reason. Even in a public place/property/venue.

[Christian Patriot]

wow... sounds like a Lansing library nightmare all over. A terrible representation of what I stand for!

[CV67PAT]

wow... sounds like a Lansing library nightmare all over. A terrible representation of what I stand for!

And just what is it that you stand for?

[Glock9mmOldStyle]

Can I bring my A-Team Mini-14?

Only if I can bring my A-Team Mini-30 with the 45rd banana mags I always loved that show, with it's "magical" poorly concealed ramps that launched jeeps into the air. I think they expended MILLIONS of rounds without ever actually hitting the bad guys! But in the end they got the job done & I guess that's what really counts

Enjoy link to show intro (80's TV at it's best)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o-YCy7xCAc&feature=player_embedded#at=48

THE ABOVE was an attempt at humor. No Michigan pistols / short rifles / shotguns etc...PLEASE. Sorry Q for helping Pat hijack & wreck yet another good  thread

This one goes out to Pat:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETO3-MxMe2Q&NR=1

[venator]

This will be a MOC event and as Q stated they focus on handgun OC.  However it is a public place and the public is welcome to use the park in any lawful way they want. 

So Pat can carry any lawful firearm he wants.  But he will not be attending this event so the question is moot.

[CV67PAT]

Can I bring my A-Team Mini-14?

Only if I can bring my A-Team Mini-30 with the 45rd banana mags I always loved that show, with it's "magical" poorly concealed ramps that launched jeeps into the air. I think they expended MILLIONS of rounds without ever actually hitting the bad guys! But in the end they got the job done & I guess that's what really counts

Enjoy link to show intro (80's TV at it's best)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o-YCy7xCAc&feature=player_embedded#at=48

THE ABOVE was an attempt at humor. No Michigan pistols / short rifles / shotguns etc...PLEASE. Sorry Q for helping Pat hijack & wreck yet another good  thread

This one goes out to Pat:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETO3-MxMe2Q&NR=1

I don't see where asking a legitimate question is trolling, stirring shit, or hijacking the thread.

Instead of just showing up with it, I asked in advance. In the past members have been welcomed with AK47s sporting collapsible stocks. I just thought it would be interesting to bring a nostalgic  firearm that I had fashioned in detail after the show.

Furthermore, I also posted, prior to any legitimate, answer that I was no longer contemplating bringing that one, as I had just acquired a .30cal M1 pistol to bring instead. It is not a rifle nor a Michigan pistol, but an actual pistol.

Any if you answer was an attempt at levity Glocker, why the tirade in response to the registration inquiry?

Just whom is it that is being disingenuous here?

And while Venator is correct that I (we) can bring any lawful firearm (even our toy guns like some kids have), I wouldn't be so presumptuous as to bring something that would be distracting without seeking prior approval.

[TheQ]

And while Venator is correct that I (we) can bring any lawful firearm (even our toy guns like some kids have), I wouldn't be so presumptuous as to bring something that would be distracting without seeking prior approval.

I have an airsoft in may basement, Pat. Care to borrow it?

[CV67PAT]

And while Venator is correct that I (we) can bring any lawful firearm (even our toy guns like some kids have), I wouldn't be so presumptuous as to bring something that would be distracting without seeking prior approval.

I have an airsoft in may basement, Pat. Care to borrow it?

Is that on the approved list? It's not a handgun.

[JoeCar]

GENTLEMAN: remember what Rodney King suggests?

[CV67PAT]

GENTLEMAN: remember what Rodney King suggests?

Just one more for the road?

[jeffsayers]

Apologies in advance, but the temptation is just too great! This is meant for laughs, if it doesn't make you laugh please ignore it. It is not meant to be read into, there is nothing behind it. (Wow, what a group we pistol-heads are that one would have to write up such a disclaimer!)

A government that does not trust it's law-abiding citizens to keep and bear arms is itself unworthy of trust. -- James Madison

Fast forward to 2011:

A firearm rights organization that does not trust it's members to keep and bear arms is itself unworthy of trust.

[CV67PAT]

"Rights" on Jeff.

I'm becoming more inclined to borrow someone's LAWS.

[TheQ]

GENTLEMAN: remember what Rodney King suggests?

Don't trust LAPD guys with big sticks?

[Glock9mmOldStyle]

United we stand...except when we lose the mantle of power?


Funny how those who are seen very little (if ever) are the ones who insist on more controversy?

Holstered Pistols 1st, & the long guns/MI pistols/short rifles will be accepted practice in the future, one can only hope. Not right, but that is where we are at in Michigan. When is the last time you (Jeff or Pat) have ever OC'd a MI pistol or long gun in public that was not a OC picnic etc..? It's legal right? So why don't you do it? Simple: it's not accepted by the police/public right? This is why MOC is discouraging this practice at this time, as I understand it.

I believe all law abiding citizens should be free to protect themselves with the best tool they can afford, be it a Marlin 60 (22lr) or a Wilson Combat 45. Just my 2 cents.